Wow. Immediately going to the myth of laziness right from the get go.

You’re wrapped in arrogance armor, placed there by propagandists. It makes you feel well intentioned, principled, correct, and most importantly, educated. The problem is that the propagandists ensured you were ignorant and dogmatic. Now you have the terrible curse of being ignorant and dogmatic but believing you’re knowledgeable and principled.

Just study more history. Read the people that you’re scared of like Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Just read more and seek after knowledge that contradicts your upbringing. Most Western communists were raised on the same propaganda you were. We all managed to defeat our training by learning more about what’s really been happening for the last 500 years and unlearning the lies we were raised with.

You can do it, too.

Well, at least we know where the Democrats’ priorities are.

Foreign policy: Escalation of global war.
Domestic policy: thoughts and prayers

No, that belief is just a coping strategy. You haven’t studied history enough. England dominated over 80% of the world’s population at it’s height. The USA broke from England over economics, primarily the crown’s intention to reform or end slavery and the crown’s restraining the colonial genocide machine from killing everyone on the continent. For almost 700 years white, European society has been traveling around the world raping, torturing, enslaving, extracting, and exploiting all of the world’s people. Every story the white European society tells about some evil doer elsewhere is primarily propaganda (true or not) to justify its continued vile dominance.

There is no future for human society that doesn’t involve dismantling everything the Europeans built on the backs of the global majority. Every current and former colony, every economic system, every legal system, every social institution, every religion - it all needs to be dismantled and rebuilt by the world’s people in accordance with the needs of those people. There is only one empire and it traces its history all the way back to Rome. It must be ended. Anyone who pretends otherwise is an apologist.

Your own source says Obama rejected sending weapons, but approved other non-weapon aid.

The single comment you sourced says they didn’t want Ukraine’s conflict with Russia to escalate.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/when-america-toes-moscows-line-214970/

Ukrainian leaders told me that the only action that Secretary of State Kerry and other American interlocutors took was to insist that the government in Kiev should do nothing to provoke Russia, in particular strongly urging Ukrainians not to use force

So your insistence that my word choice is nefarious is only reinforced by your anemic attempt at what you pretend is “research”.

You’re misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.

No. This is not accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-ukraine-military-aid-sheets-pillows-fact-check/index.html

Facts First: Trump is being hyperbolic here. While the Obama administration was criticized for its refusal to provide lethal assistance to Ukraine, it did provide more than $100 million in security assistance, as well as a significant amount of defense and military equipment.

Lethal aid is weapons. Armored humvees are not weapons.

The idea that you think I’m a Trump supporter after reading my comment history is hilarious and says way more about you than it does about me.

LOL. Continuing the time honored tradition of believing that anyone who disagrees with you is an evil nefarious paid actor.

Let’s not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.

The CIA for the last 4 years has reported that Russia has neither the will nor the capability to capture and hold Ukraine. The only people who are saying it are people like you. Russia will not take all of Ukraine because it does not serve them to do so and it is not militarily feasible for them to do so.

I love that the USA has the power to order a Chinese country not to ship things it makes to other parts of China.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. The fact that there have been so much consistent reporting over such a long period of time about NATO and Ukraine means it absolutely needs to be considered.

I don’t even need an article to refute all of that - Russia attacked a neighbor unprovoked, NATO has attacked NOBODY ever.

Again, please tell me this is satire. NATO has attacked multiple countries over the years. But also, since the advent of nuclear weapons, firing the first shot stopped being the standard. Because the first shot can now be a total annihilation shot, no country is capable of having a strategy that judges threats only by who fired the first shot. It must be judged by who is establishing the positioning to undermine security. Russia is not deploying nuclear capabilities around the world. The USA is deploying nuclear capabilities around the world, and in Europe it is doing so through NATO. This may be a shock to you, but deploying nuclear capabilities to undermine the security of another nation is NOT an act of peace.

It’s OK. We don’t need you to understand. We love each other very much and defend each other against people like you. Insults are one of the ways we get people like you to leave. Now go on … git!

I’ve literally seen you accused of illiteracy multiple times in this post ALONE.

Perhaps your literacy problem is bigger than we thought.

This is just to start training and organizing the guerilla cells that will be left behind for the protracted conflict.

I think maybe you’re just not a very careful reader.

Because America is dying?

I’m not doing acceleration. You libs really gotta figure out the difference between the layers of reality. This is happening. I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t advocate for Trump to be elected on the grounds that it would accelerate collapse. But here we are. It’s happening. I’m not going to fucking weep for America. That doesn’t make me an accelerationist.

“Newly fascist US” is pretty ridiculous when you consider the 1939 Nazi rally at MSG in NYC, Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, the USA selecting former Nazi officers to lead NATO, Hitler’s explicit writings in Mein Kampf of following the American model of indigenous genocide, black slavery, and apartheid, the USA’s repeated veto of the UN resolution to condemn the worshiping of Nazis, the neverending free-speech protections of white supremacist and neonazis simultaneous with the neverending police murder and brutality of black and brown people, etc, etc, etc.

And Canada doesn’t get a pass on this either. They, too, glorify Nazis while raping and murdering indigenous people.

Weep for America… fuck right off.

Wow. So the US, France, England, Germany, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands have been regularly banned from international sporting events? That’s cool. Never heard of that.

You don’t understand anything about military reality, let alone actual motivations.

The CIA itself reports and has been reporting for years that Putin has no expansionist ambitions politically and no expansionist capabilities militarily.

There’s a reason why the Russian military has not tried to take Kiev and it’s because defending supply lines across the wide open plains of Ukraine is incredibly difficult and costly.

Russia is not capable of taking all of Eastern Europe and holidng and it has no plans or intentions to do so.

Respect is when you promise to walk away if your discursive partner refuses to accept your faulty premises.

IF the elections are rigged by the MIC to wrap fait accompli into a cohesive and digestable narrative, the surrender of Ukraine is one of those things that might have required Trump at the helm for it to be believable. He’s anti-China and anti-Arab so he can just as easily maintain the existing war drives, but he’s also the cover necessary to let Ukraine fall and continue the hollowing out of Europe.

I don’t think they’re rigged. But if they were…

I’m willing to try one more time with you.

Oh how gracious! Thank you!

Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is “rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people”, and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, “you’re wrong - it’s not just rhetoric that changes. It’s also our rights as Americans.”

Yeah, I’m aware. And as it turns out ALL of the things you can cite for Trump are ALSO things you can cite for NOT TRUMP, as I did by citing examples of how our rights are rolled back, attacked, diminished, and destroyed under prior administrations including Biden’s.

This means I am saying “our rights” are constantly being harmed regardless of who is in office and that the only thing that changes is the framing and lens, which includes the rhetoric as well as the particular strategies of harm that result in harm being targeted in specific ways. It’s not less harm under Democrats, it’s not less harm under NOT TRUMP, it’s just different framing.

I understand that you’re severely critical of the Democratic party

If that’s your understanding, then you’re not understanding. I’m severely critical of the entire American project along its entire continuum of existence and absolutely every single leader that has ever been elected. I’ll take that one step further so you understand how far off you are - I denounce the entirety of the colonial system that gave birth to and is continued by the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the rest of the British Commonwealth abroad, and the foreign holdings of all European countries, their leaders, their parties-in-power, their owning classes, and their supporting militaries, academies, religious institutions, and NGOs.

Do you get it now?

but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It’s going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.

I CHALLENGE you to attempt to catalog the number of people who died as a result of each administration for the last 20 administrations and see if you can find ANY evidence that who is president matters at all along that dimension. Clinton bombed Yugoslavia. Bush destroyed Iraq. Obama destroyed Libya. The Afghanistan affair spanned 20 fucking year. Ukraine is the direct result of the US arming and training Ukraine and expanding nuclear NATO as part of a project that started under Clinton. Trump literally was the first president to approve arms transfers to Ukraine as part of the escalation ladder that led to Biden overseeing the continued expansion of NATO. But it was under Obama that John McCain ® and Victoria Nuland (?D?) went to Ukraine to participate in the violent transfer of power that started with training and organizing fascists and ended with Right Sector storming the capitol with gun drawn.

And that’s to say nothing of the non-stop destruction of water, land, and food of the indigenous people across the Americas, the residential schools that were overseen by both parties over many decades, the forced sterilization overseen by both parties over many decades, the incarceration and ensnaring-in-poverty of the black population overseen by both parties over many decades.

I won’t get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I’m leaving the conversation.

What the fuck kind of discourse do you think this is where what I want is to continue a conversation with someone who thinks they are fundamentally correct without doubt and simultaneously believes their engagement is so desirable that withdrawing it is an effective gambit.

Fuck off